DAM Red Rooster - Biasing - can't get above 6.3V - issue?

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DAM Red Rooster - Biasing - can't get above 6.3V - issue?

tracer03
Layout: http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.com/2011/11/dam-red-rooster-vero-layout.html

Built this stock with a 103NU71 Russian NPN - hFE 71, lkg > .1 - and the highest I can get the collector voltage to is 6.3V. It sounds okay at lower volumes, but I don't know about at playing volume (kids are home). I saw in the comments that a number of people also stated they couldn't get the collector V much higher than that, so I was wondering if there are any component adjustments that can be made to get the voltage a bit higher to the collector.

I know, if it sounds good, etc. - but just thought I would ask. Thanks!
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This is essentially a Rangemaster (which is nothing but a common emitter amplifier with voltage divider biasing). RG has good instructions for biasing Rangemasters here. It involves tweaking the 68k resistor (Rb1) as well as the trimpot (Re).

Here's the relevant section, but you might consider reading the whole document if you're interested in learning more. (For example, he recommends a Vc between 6.8V and 7.1V.)

RG wrote
I recommend you do the actual tuning this way:

1. Build up your circuit by one of the methods shown later. Leave the Rb1 and Re resistors out, attaching a 100K and a 10K pot respectively on long wires

2. Use a DMM and set these pots to the nominal 68K and 3.9K respectively, and make a temporary mark on the pot and shaft to note the pot rotation at these values.

3. Apply battery voltage and measure the collector voltage to ground. You would like to see –6.6 to –7.2V with a fresh battery (9.0 to 9.3V).

4. If the collector is too high (the transistor is too “off”) increase the Rb1 value. If you go very near the highest resistance before you get to –7V, reset the Rb1 pot to the 68K mark and inch the Re value down a bit, then try tuning the Rb1 value again.

5. If you go near the low end of the Rb1 resistor before you get to –7V, increase the Re value slightly.

6. Once you get to –7V on the collector, turn it off , remove the pots, being careful not to turn the shafts. Measure the resistances and solder in the nearest standard value fixed resistors.

7. If Rb1 is below 27K or above 82K, or if Re is below 2.7K or above 5.1K, your transistor either has the wrong gain or is too leaky to use, you’ll have to use another one.
He also recommends tweaking the input cap if you change the biasing resistors, but the range control might make that less necessary in this build.

I'd do this procedure on a breadboard, myself.
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tracer03
Thanks for the links, I have that bookmarked but never got around to reading it - so once I read your post I read it over. THEN...

I thought I would pull the 68k see if a lower value would help me closer to the target voltage. For some reason, I decided to measure the resistor I pulled, and it read 88k (!). Even though it's marked as 68k...

Normally I measure all my components prior to positioning them on the board, but I musta missed that one. Measured out a 68k, soldered it in, and it biased right up to 6.66 v (per the comments). Sounds fantastic, now.

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