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PMowdes

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Think the vero is fine, just the off board wiring is a bit of nightmare

SpaceCommandant

Re: Lovetone Meatball

In reply to this post by velouriafx

I've built it successfully, but the offboard wiring instructions confused me in a couple of places, particularly when using toggle switches in place of a couple of rotaries, and wiring the fx loop.

velouriafx

Re: Lovetone Meatball

In reply to this post by PMowdes

Today I was reading the instructions and I could not understand anything. The Mutron III the same. Can you share a pic or explain how you used switches, SpaceCommandant? Thanks.

PMowdes

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Have a look here

http://pisotones.com/Meatball/psst/meatball-psst.html

There are a bunch of diagrams

PMowdes

Re: Lovetone Meatball

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scimitar wrote

I'm currently on a mission to build all the Lovetone pedals, Doppelganger and Meatball completed so far and up and running. I have used the layouts that Muadzin refers to, Wobulator is almost finished with noname flanger in progress. I have etched the boards myself which is pretty straightforward and cheap as well. For the switches I used Tayda although annoyingly for the first 3 I ordered the wrong ones and ended up having to take them apart and modify them, for the flanger I believe I have the correct ones although they were slightly more expensive (still Tayda).

Scimitar, do you have schematics for the noname flanger. I've managed to find the doppleganger, wobulator and string ringer.

nocentelli

Re: Lovetone Meatball

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velouriafx wrote

Today I was reading the instructions and I could not understand anything. The Mutron III the same. Can you share a pic or explain how you used switches, SpaceCommandant? Thanks.

I have a vero layout for my meatball with toggles for all rotaries I see if I can find it.

scimitar

Re: Lovetone Meatball

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PMowdes wrote

scimitar wrote

I'm currently on a mission to build all the Lovetone pedals, Doppelganger and Meatball completed so far and up and running. I have used the layouts that Muadzin refers to, Wobulator is almost finished with noname flanger in progress. I have etched the boards myself which is pretty straightforward and cheap as well. For the switches I used Tayda although annoyingly for the first 3 I ordered the wrong ones and ended up having to take them apart and modify them, for the flanger I believe I have the correct ones although they were slightly more expensive (still Tayda).

Scimitar, do you have schematics for the noname flanger. I've managed to find the doppleganger, wobulator and string ringer.

Hi, yes the set of documents With all the Lovetone pedals has a build document by electric storm that includes a schematic, I'll see if I can find a link.

velouriafx

Re: Lovetone Meatball

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Thanks, nocentelli

nocentelli

Re: Lovetone Meatball

The range switch has compromise cap values: Since you have to use a DPDT on-off-on, you only get three choices (2n7/7n4/12n7) instead of 2n2/3n3/6n8/15n.

PMowdes

Re: Lovetone Meatball

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Got the bloody thing working. The 1458's I had from China were all duff, lesson learned. The Seamoon funk machine works as well with a proper chip in it.

Hozy31

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Nice one Phil

. Still waiting for my Vactrols, but looking forward to giving it a go.

"Red velvet lines the black box"

Hozy31

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Hey Phil, is it possible you could draw a guick diagram for your switch wiring for this, i want to make sure i get it correct as i think thats why my previous build was crap. My vactrols arrived but now i'm waiting on rotary switches

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PMowdes

Re: Lovetone Meatball

What sort of rotaries have you ordered??

I seem to remember that I used 3p4t switches for all of the except the Bandwidth which I used a SPDT(on/off/on).

Here's what you need for each switch.

Sweep (up/down) 3P2T
Range (off/full/half) 2P3T
Bandwidth SPDT(on/off/on)
Mode (High pass / Band pass /Low pass) 1P3T

Just wire the switches to the pads, there is no other off board wiring like on the vero version.

There is a slight issue with the range switch, wire A as normal. You need to swap throws 1 and 3 on B (i'll drop you a better explanation of this when I get home tonight)

Let me know if this all makes sense.

Cheers

Phil

Hozy31

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Yeh its 3p4t i ordered as well as 1p12t and 2p6t for other projects. Bought the black and white plastic ones from Tayda as they are easily adjustable position wise.

Thanks for the info, should make it all a bit easier to hook it up.

Cheers

Gav

On 24/04/2017 09:27, PMowdes [via Guitar FX Layouts] wrote:

What sort of rotaries have you ordered??

I seem to remember that I used 3p4t switches for all of the except the Bandwidth which I used a SPDT(on/off/on).

Here's what you need for each switch.

Sweep (up/down) 3P2T
Range (off/full/half) 2P3T
Bandwidth SPDT(on/off/on)
Mode (High pass / Band pass /Low pass) 1P3T

Just wire the switches to the pads, there is no other off board wiring like on the vero version.

There is a slight issue with the range switch, wire A as normal. You need to swap throws 1 and 3 on B (i'll drop you a better explanation of this when I get home tonight)

Let me know if this all makes sense.

Cheers

Phil

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PMowdes

Re: Lovetone Meatball

I used some of these recently for the BiPhase

https://www.musikding.de/Mini-rotary-switch-2P3T

A little on the small side but they do a good job.

Hozy31

Re: Lovetone Meatball

This post was updated on .

These smaller options would be good as the tayda ones have quite a large
footprint. Might have a look to see what else is out there.

G.

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PMowdes

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Hey Hozy

Here's where to wire the common poles of the switches

Wiring the rest should be self explanatory.

The one error in the layout is that throws 1 & 3 of RANGE B need to be swapped round. Either that or wire it normally and swap C32 and C34

Hozy31

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Thanks Phil. Definitely going to make it a bit easier to wire up.

"Red velvet lines the black box"

Hozy31

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Hey Phil, just wiring this up, but bit confused what the snd, rsw and rtp are connected. Can you explain? Ta.

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PMowdes

Re: Lovetone Meatball

Dude

apologies if ive had few.

you need 4 jacks, two are standard in / out.

There is also a send / return loop.

you need a send jack. which is just wired like the in / out.......sleeve to gnd / tip to the snd pad on the board.

you need a switched jack for the return. sleeve goes the gnd as standard, the switch goes to rsw and the tip goes to rtp..

if this doesnt make sense let me know and ill draw a pic

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